
Public Lands and the Government Shutdown
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Q2: There’s a big debate about whether any #publiclands should be open to visitors right now. Should all @NatlParkService sites be closed until the government reopens? Why or why not? #ParkChat
Pic: @PetroglyphNPS Oct '16


replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2. To protect them - close them down. Period. #ParkChat

A2 We think they pretty much all should be closed without proper protection from rangers and contracters. Monuments in DC and the like could easily remain open, but other than that, shut it down. These are the most important things we have. #ParkChat https://t.co/nbJYPC5LMX

A2 I believe they should be closed b/c: 1) it's closing for a little while vs. cleaning up for a long time, plus 2) we Americans have got to learn that we cannot get something for nothing; we either have a government or we don't #parkchat

A2: I oscillate back and forth, part of me says keep it open for all to enjoy, then I realize that not all people take care of the parks like we do...close them to save them! #ParkChat

A2. It's a tough question, because concessioners also employ people who need their jobs. But they can't protect the parks like rangers and staff can, so everything should be shut down. And violators prosecuted. #ParkChat #Shutdown

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2: I'm a supporter of shutting them down. Not everyone is capable of safely and respectfully using the sites in accordance with laws and regulations. #ParkChat

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2 IMHO, the sites should all be closed to protect everything. Wildlife, people, natural resources, historical sites and features, everything. #ParkChat

A2. Tough one. I think we only need to look to Joshua Tree for the answer here. #ParkChat

A2: the parks should be closed. It’s like a teenager throwing a rager when parents are out of town—people can get hurt, the house might get destroyed, and the aftermath is something that no party wants to deal with. #parkchat

A2: Yes, all units should be shuttered until the shutdown ends. And the reason is that the small minority of those that behave as if mom and dad are away and it’s kegger time will have too much of a negative impact that will take years to overcome #ParkChat https://t.co/gcgbLFTqSe

A2. Without protection and oversight by the park service and our amazing park rangers, I believe they should be closed to protect the parks. #parkchat

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2. I think, where it's possible, they should be closed until the shutdown has ended. They need to be protected and it has already been proven that bad behavior can have devastating consequences for our parks. #ParkChat

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2) It's just too bad more people don't understand #LeaveNoTrace Right @WoodsyOwl? #ParkChat


replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2. Yes, to protect both the park and visitors they should #ParkChat

RT @WildWithinHer: A2. It's a tough question, because concessioners also employ people who need their jobs. But they can't protect the park…

RT @mjn126: @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2: I'm a supporter of shutting them down. Not everyone is capable of safely and…

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2 No. They should be off limits. Too many people abusing them. #ParkChat

RT @Stars252525: @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2 IMHO, the sites should all be closed to protect everything. Wildlife, pe…

RT @mjn126: @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2: I'm a supporter of shutting them down. Not everyone is capable of safely and…

replying to @publiclandlvr
@publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2. Yes, close them.
1. It will help protect the parks, and potential visitors.
2. The impact of a shutdown should be shared.
#parkchat

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2 All federal #publiclands should have been closed the moment the shutdown began. Evidence as to why they be closed is plastered all over the national media as their condition degrades without the necessary care and oversight that federal agencies provide. #ParkChat

RT @unconpeace: A2 I believe they should be closed b/c: 1) it's closing for a little while vs. cleaning up for a long time, plus 2) we Amer…

A2: Given the trash and poor treatment of U.S. public lands during the shutdown, I think they should ALL be closed. If visitors are unable to "leave no trace" during the shutdown they don't deserve to visit these places. #ParkChat

A2 Tough question. I lean towards shutting all of the NPS sites which do not have concessioners active at this time. While the parks belong to us all, folks have shown, especially in CA, that you can’t trust folks if the rangers aren’t there. #parkchat #govermentshutdown

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2 Feels like the parks should be shut down right now. They are enduring too much damage, and it doesn't seem safe for visitors. Need to assess damage and clean things up. #parkchat

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2) An impromptu shooting range we witnessed at might be Tule Springs Fossil Beds NM (boundaries of the park are uncertain) was troubling. #parkchat

A2. If the government can keep public airspace open safely during a shutdown, then the government can safely keep publiclands open safely during a shutdown. Public lands should be just as important as our airspace, and held to the same standard. #ParkChat https://t.co/v9L36Q7gfl

RT @noreenwriter: A2. Without protection and oversight by the park service and our amazing park rangers, I believe they should be closed to…

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2) I'd like to see as many of the Parks/Public Lands as possible be closed during the shutdown for various reasons such as safety & security. Sadly not all areas can be completely closed since some roads provide local access. #ParkChat
replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS a2 - "Leaving the parks open without these essential staff is equivalent to leaving the Smithsonian museums open without any staff to protect the priceless artifacts." - Jon Jarvis - Former NPS Director #ParkChat

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2: Hard to justify keeping them open after the Joshua Tree debacle (and in other places.) #ParkChat

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2) I'm in favor of shutting them down unless there are staff there to monitor our resource protection. We've obviously discovered that the public cannot be responsible without supervision. #parkchat

RT @t_jh2009: @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2) I'd like to see as many of the Parks/Public Lands as possible be closed du…

RT @louisbink: @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS a2 - "Leaving the parks open without these essential staff is equivalent to l…

RT @louisbink: @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS a2 - "Leaving the parks open without these essential staff is equivalent to l…

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2. I bow to the expertise here, where it seems clear that most everyone feels they should be shut down. Even trying to play devil's advocate, I cannot come up with a good counter to keep them open. #parkchat

RT @InnerCompass: @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2) I'm in favor of shutting them down unless there are staff there to mon…

A2. IMO, there are a few that could be kept open, e.g., the Lincoln & World War II memorials. Presume clear views & security cameras will protect. #ParkChat

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2 #ParkChat I'd like to see the parks shutdown while rangers not being paid and cleaning staff not being paid. Safety, education, and sanitation

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2: Many folks, like our friends at @modernhiker, agree with us that we should not be going to #NuestrosNationalParks if they can. With so many options including state and local parks, it's best to find an alternative. If you do happen to go, remember to #LeaveNoTrace! #ParkChat

A2 (cont) - The rules for a shutdown say that all personnel "essential to protect public safety and property" should not be furloughed. If that rule is not being followed - we should be pushing for personnel to be recalled from furlough, and not shutting down parks. #ParkChat https://t.co/v9L36Q7gfl

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService A2) #parkchat During the #GovernmentShutdown, unfortunately people have shown they can't be reponsible so keep them closed or use the entrance fees to pay the rangers and people to operate the facilities.

RT @LatinoOutdoors: @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2: Many folks, like our friends at @modernhiker, agree with us that we…

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2. I think for the protection of the #publiclands they should be closed, yes, because unsupervised visitors have now proven they can’t be responsible. #ParkChat


RT @Parkasaur: A2 (cont) - The rules for a shutdown say that all personnel "essential to protect public safety and property" should not be…

A2. Sadly, I think that the parks should be shut down except for a safety-essential patrol to keep vandals out #ParkChat

A2 #ParkChat Tough question. I think people need to be better. I don't think we should need rangers patrolling to keep people from doing the wrong things. But if we look at Hobbes writings in Leviathan, the nature of humanity is to be awful. So maybe they do need to be closed

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @59NationalParks @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2: Florida may be a special case. people running the tours through nonprofit partner and concessionaire are grateful that they can work and get paid. But funding that typically goes to research and projects is going to maintenance. Can’t get money back. Unsustainable. #parkchat

replying to @publiclandlvr @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2: Keep them closed for now, for the sake of safety and protection. #ParkChat

RT @KirstenAlana: @publiclandlvr @NatlParkService @PetroglyphNPS A2. I think for the protection of the #publiclands they should be closed,…